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Going with a multiplier that varies by county would be too complex for the NCHSAA. One multiplier across the board would work unless said school agrees to play up one full class. For example a 1AA charter school would be in 2A and compete in 2AA playoffs. 

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52 minutes ago, Catholic said:

Going with a multiplier that varies by county would be too complex for the NCHSAA. One multiplier across the board would work unless said school agrees to play up one full class. For example a 1AA charter school would be in 2A and compete in 2AA playoffs. 

They have assistance from SAS.  I think they can easily put together any program to figure out the info on this.

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Here's what I had in mind for the NCHSAA realignment regardless of having a "multiplier" for parochial and charter schools.

4A: 1501 & up
3A: 1001 - 1500
2A: 701 - 1000
1A: 700 & less

Of course, subdivide for the football playoffs.

If sports other than football want to subdivide their playoffs, that's up to them ...

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19 hours ago, RD28327 said:

Here's what I had in mind for the NCHSAA realignment regardless of having a "multiplier" for parochial and charter schools.

4A: 1501 & up
3A: 1001 - 1500
2A: 701 - 1000
1A: 700 & less

Of course, subdivide for the football playoffs.

If sports other than football want to subdivide their playoffs, that's up to them ...

That is really dumb.

 

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Knights said:

Said the guy thats wants 25/25/25/25.

Lol

Let me clarify. 25-25-25-25 I like, if an only if it is done for the purposes of conferences and for playoffs they are subdivided.

We are handcuffed with having to have 4 classes.

 

How about

1A-0-450

2A-451-600

2AA-601-900

3A-901-1250

3AA-1251-1700

4A-1771 and up.

???????

 

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1 hour ago, LarryRandolph said:

Let me clarify. 25-25-25-25 I like, if an only if it is done for the purposes of conferences and for playoffs they are subdivided.

We are handcuffed with having to have 4 classes.

 

How about

1A-0-450

2A-451-600

2AA-601-900

3A-901-1250

3AA-1251-1700

4A-1771 and up.

???????

 

1771 vs 3500? That is an interesting match up??

 

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3 hours ago, LarryRandolph said:

That is really dumb.

 

 

 

 

OK, Genius, how is it really dumb???

Explain to us with all your infinite knowledge and wisdom ...

 

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37 minutes ago, Paul Graham said:

1771 vs 3500? That is an interesting match up??

 

Depends on who is the 1771 and who is the 3500 ... Scotland has 1509 and they wouldn't be afraid ...

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3 hours ago, RD28327 said:

The Stevens' plan ...

Other models concocted by Nick Stevens:

15/15/20/20/15/15

20/20/20/20/20

20/30/30/20

25/25/25/25

OK, Mr. Randolph, what you've got?

If six were available I would like the first one.

Fir five I would want the 1A and 5A to have fewer schools. 13/24/26/24/13.

Four I would like 30/20/20/30 and subdivide 1A and 4A for all team sports.  No subdiving for any sports fir 2A and including no football subclasses.  The ADMs are tight enough it is not needed!  Also, would like the multiplier for non traditional schools and schools that allow students from outside the geographical district to play sports.

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Here is my post from the other thread.

I like 1A and 4A to have 30% of the schools.  
2A and 3A 20%.                                        Figure out a multiplier and it needs to be placed on all schools that allow students from outside their physical boundary to play sports.  This has to be removed from the authority of the LEA.


1A and 4A subdivide all team sports.      No subdividing fir 2A and 3A in any sports!   2A and 3A would have 75 schools in a tight ADM space from largest to smallest.  

1A and 4A would have 110 schools football playing schools.  Subdivide for all team sports.  
 

1A and 4A 64 teams qualify in football.  58% of schools.  2A and 3A 32 schools qualify. 43% qualify.  Note 2A and 3A are my playing much larger schools in conference or even percentage wise in the playoffs so I do not have an issue with a less percentage of the schools making the playoffs.

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15 minutes ago, btango said:

Here is my post from the other thread.

I like 1A and 4A to have 30% of the schools.  
2A and 3A 20%.                                        Figure out a multiplier and it needs to be placed on all schools that allow students from outside their physical boundary to play sports.  This has to be removed from the authority of the LEA.


1A and 4A subdivide all team sports.      No subdividing fir 2A and 3A in any sports!   2A and 3A would have 75 schools in a tight ADM space from largest to smallest.  

1A and 4A would have 110 schools football playing schools.  Subdivide for all team sports.  
 

1A and 4A 64 teams qualify in football.  58% of schools.  2A and 3A 32 schools qualify. 43% qualify.  Note 2A and 3A are my playing much larger schools in conference or even percentage wise in the playoffs so I do not have an issue with a less percentage of the schools making the playoffs.

I could possibly see this  (which I base somewhat on 30/20/20/30) ...

4A: 1426 & up
3A: 1001 - 1425
2A: 751 - 1000
1A: 750 & less

Right now, this is all one huge crap shoot ...

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16 hours ago, RD28327 said:

Depends on who is the 1771 and who is the 3500 ... Scotland has 1509 and they wouldn't be afraid ...

RD, Your right about Scotland, but it is about competitive balance. Myers Park has enough kids to field two or more teams compared to Scotland. It is about depth and available kids to chose from. Take some 1A schools for example. Some of the larger 1A schools have more males than the smaller schools have total kids. This is the crux of the problem. 

Now before everyone begins squawking about not every kid playing football I understand that but you can't complain about numbers when the playoffs are sub divided and not now. 

16 hours ago, RD28327 said:

This is the 30/20/20/30 before subdividing and I think it is the best setup right now. It meets the bylaws about classes and still allows for a reasonably equal subdivision and the state still makes money with six champions.  

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1 hour ago, Paul Graham said:

This is the 30/20/20/30 before subdividing and I think it is the best setup right now. It meets the bylaws about classes and still allows for a reasonably equal subdivision and the state still makes money with six champions.  

OK, now you have me looking at Nick's numbers in a different way.  Even Nick's original plan met the bylaws and gave you six champions.  But, this really makes me look at  15/15/20/20/15/15 much different.  I think you might see some 1A/1AA as well as 4A/4AA conferences out of these scenarios.

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21 hours ago, rville20 said:

I can get on board with 1A 0-450 and love it. 

If we can get the cheating charters out of our league I would love it even more.

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On 3/23/2020 at 3:39 PM, LarryRandolph said:

Let me clarify. 25-25-25-25 I like, if an only if it is done for the purposes of conferences and for playoffs they are subdivided.

We are handcuffed with having to have 4 classes.

 

How about

1A-0-450

2A-451-600

2AA-601-900

3A-901-1250

3AA-1251-1700

4A-1771 and up.

???????

 

I like it.

Not sure if the numbers work out though. 

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