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Week 1: South Meck

Week 2: @Good Counsel (MD)

Week 3: Archbishop Rummel (Louisana)

Week 4: @Country Day 

BYE

Week 6: Monroe

Week 7: @Weddington

Week 8: @Sun Valley 

Week 9: Piedmont 

Week 10: @Parkwood 

Week 11: Cuthbertson 

Week 12: @Marvin Ridge 

 

Side note, Good Counsel and Archbishop Rummel are home and homes, so in 2020 locations will flip. 

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Yep Catholic ought to be allowed to compete with NC public schools. I can't imagine anybody complaining, they are just like everybody else. There isn't a school in 3A that can't afford to send their football team to Maryland one year and Louisiana the next. 

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2 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

Yep Catholic ought to be allowed to compete with NC public schools. I can't imagine anybody complaining, they are just like everybody else. There isn't a school in 3A that can't afford to send their football team to Maryland one year and Louisiana the next. 

Really dude? Like really? You’re going to come at us with that? How do you know that Good Counsel and Rummel aren’t helping us pay to get there? You don’t know that because you don’t know anything about our program. 

You’re an arm chair quarterback who thinks you know this and that, when the reality is far different from whatever is in your head. We work hard and parents sacrifice a ton to send their kids here. 

Take your loser mentality and kick rocks. We want to be the best and our schedule reflects that, but you can sit down and shut your mouth because you don’t know what you’re talking about. 

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4 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

Yep Catholic ought to be allowed to compete with NC public schools. I can't imagine anybody complaining, they are just like everybody else. There isn't a school in 3A that can't afford to send their football team to Maryland one year and Louisiana the next. 

Mallard Creek and Vance have quite a bit less money than Catholic.  They were each in talks to go to the GA / Florida border a few years ago to play a GA national power.  Very close to happening.

When Gonzaga (DC) came to Mallard Creek they received very little compensation.  MC draws less than South Point.

Think about it like this.  Catholic pulls a good home crowd versus the Maryland school and does not give them any money.  They just covered their trip.

 

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7 hours ago, btango said:

Mallard Creek and Vance have quite a bit less money than Catholic.  They were each in talks to go to the GA / Florida border a few years ago to play a GA national power.  Very close to happening.

When Gonzaga (DC) came to Mallard Creek they received very little compensation.  MC draws less than South Point.

Think about it like this.  Catholic pulls a good home crowd versus the Maryland school and does not give them any money.  They just covered their trip.

 

Think you are thinking about CC/Gonzaga in 2013

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You are correct Mr. Catholic, I don't know anything about your program. I am pretty sure at least 1/2 the 3A PUBLIC schools in the state, probably more like 2/3, could not afford to send their football team on those type trips, nor could their parents. I know there will never be a level playing field. There will always be haves and have nots. There will always be inequalities in the system. Private schools, charter schools and the like draw players and money from traditional puplic schools. I applaud the privates for the educational experience they offer the kids. I'm sure education is the primary reason for their existence. And yes, you guys do football right, better than any other 3A school in the state. 

I don't hate Catholic, I don't hate their players or their coaches. I do however believe they have built-in advantages others don't and will never have.  Congratulations on your state title in 2018. I don't think 2019 will be much different except for that out of state trip of course.

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9 minutes ago, SPRaiders78 said:

You are correct Mr. Catholic, I don't know anything about your program. I am pretty sure at least 1/2 the 3A PUBLIC schools in the state, probably more like 2/3, could not afford to send their football team on those type trips, nor could their parents. I know there will never be a level playing field. There will always be haves and have nots. There will always be inequalities in the system. Private schools, charter schools and the like draw players and money from traditional puplic schools. I applaud the privates for the educational experience they offer the kids. I'm sure education is the primary reason for their existence. And yes, you guys do football right, better than any other 3A school in the state. 

I don't hate Catholic, I don't hate their players or their coaches. I do however believe they have built-in advantages others don't and will never have.  Congratulations on your state title in 2018. I don't think 2019 will be much different except for that out of state trip of course.

What does being able to go play an out of state team have to do with anything? Oh right, nothing! You don’t know the details of the contract or anything else. Just because your school doesn’t try to schedule out of state schools doesn’t mean we have an advantage because we do. 

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Justification, rationalization, excuse there are many words to describe the reasoning behind ones defense of a theory. 

I'm sure if I could afford to send my son to school there and he was able to make the football team, I would probably be in agreement with you on this issue. But as someone told me on a different thread a few months ago, "ain't it great we all have different opinions." Wouldn't life be boring if we all thought the same way. Again Mr. Catholic, I don't hate you or your program. I just think the rules should be such that, Charlotte Catholic High School and all other privately funded schools participate in the leagues that have been  created for them. 

Sorry I pissed you off again, not my intention. I guess I need to stay on the 2A thread and continue to hate on Shelby. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Catholic said:

Think you are thinking about CC/Gonzaga in 2013

My bad.  Actually I meant McDonogh (Maryland) which played Mallard Creek in 2015.  Think it was 2015. 

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41 minutes ago, btango said:

My bad.  Actually I meant McDonogh (Maryland) which played Mallard Creek in 2015.  Think it was 2015. 

That’s right, I forgot about that

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6 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

You are correct Mr. Catholic, I don't know anything about your program. I am pretty sure at least 1/2 the 3A PUBLIC schools in the state, probably more like 2/3, could not afford to send their football team on those type trips, nor could their parents. I know there will never be a level playing field. There will always be haves and have nots. There will always be inequalities in the system. Private schools, charter schools and the like draw players and money from traditional puplic schools. I applaud the privates for the educational experience they offer the kids. I'm sure education is the primary reason for their existence. And yes, you guys do football right, better than any other 3A school in the state. 

I don't hate Catholic, I don't hate their players or their coaches. I do however believe they have built-in advantages others don't and will never have.  Congratulations on your state title in 2018. I don't think 2019 will be much different except for that out of state trip of course.

This is the same argument I hear from all of my friends who are CC haters.  Just show just how close minded they are.  

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Come on Harrington, your just being nice. Tell me what you really think.

How is having an opinion contrary to yours, closed minded?  South Point is 2A right now. They may move back up to 3A next realignment, I don't know. As of now they don't have to face Catholic and if they did they would probably lose.  It's not about how "my team" would do against them. It's about the traditional public schools out there. If you've never been, take a trip to South Gastonia. How do the facilities at Huss compare with those at Catholic. I don't know, but I expect there is a difference in the salaries of the coaching staff as well. I could go on but it's like politics, I won't change your mind and you won't change mine.

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30 minutes ago, SPRaiders78 said:

Come on Harrington, your just being nice. Tell me what you really think.

How is having an opinion contrary to yours, closed minded?  South Point is 2A right now. They may move back up to 3A next realignment, I don't know. As of now they don't have to face Catholic and if they did they would probably lose.  It's not about how "my team" would do against them. It's about the traditional public schools out there. If you've never been, take a trip to South Gastonia. How do the facilities at Huss compare with those at Catholic. I don't know, but I expect there is a difference in the salaries of the coaching staff as well. I could go on but it's like politics, I won't change your mind and you won't change mine.

Our weightroom is smaller and older than every school I’ve seen. Our racks were bought in 2001. Teaching salaries in Catholic schools in Charlotte are lower than CMS so you can deduce coach stipends from that. Also we don’t have our own tennis courts or our own baseball field. We have to rent out fields. Also, Huss had an auxiliary gym which we dont have oh and have one practice field for all sports outside of the game field. So again you’re wrong. 

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Ok, I give up, you belong. I don't see how you are able to keep uniforms on the poor kids. You guys must do more with less, than any school in the state. 

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2 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

Ok, I give up, you belong. I don't see how you are able to keep uniforms on the poor kids. You guys must do more with less, than any school in the state. 

Catholic does a hell-of-a-lot with a hell-of-a-lot less than others.  Their booster raise most of the money they get.  The Charlotte Diocese is none too free with the dollars for athletics. Catholic is a good one to have on your schedule.  Their fans support is as good as it gets.  A home team playing Catholic will have a good gate.  Brings to mind a quote  by Ric Flair.  "To be the best you have to eat the best".  This one gets with Catholic.

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I don't care what you say, I ain't gonna eat em. I know they are good, even I wouldn't question that. Reguardless, I still don't think they should be playing in the NCHSAA. As usual, nobody gives a rats butt about what I think, but I am entitled to my opinion.  

It is fun getting Mr. Catholic stirred up from time to time though. There must be a little truth in what I'm saying or Mr. Catholic wouldn't get so bent out of shape about it.

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22 minutes ago, BlueDevilsBiggestFan said:

I wish CLT would let the Private schools  play Public bc I think Vance vs Country day or Catholic vs North Meck or something would be good but ik it won’t happen 

What's the rule with that, because MC has played Catholic twice and Charlotte Christian once.??

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3 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

I don't care what you say, I ain't gonna eat em. I know they are good, even I wouldn't question that. Reguardless, I still don't think they should be playing in the NCHSAA. As usual, nobody gives a rats butt about what I think, but I am entitled to my opinion.  

It is fun getting Mr. Catholic stirred up from time to time though. There must be a little truth in what I'm saying or Mr. Catholic wouldn't get so bent out of shape about it.

That dog don't hunt.  Catholic has been a NCHSAA member longer than South Point.  People that get beat by then always go back to that rationale.  Windsor Eagle from Salisbury tried it and failed.  They say they recruit.  So just why does CC win with average athletes?  Solid fundamentals, above average intelligence and great coaching.  Just look on the field.  There are not a bunch of prima donnas out there, just a bunch of good HS athletes doing their jobs without a lot of flash.  They take pride in what they do.  Yes, I'm a Charlotte Catholic fan.  They do things the right way.  They also have the best concession stand in Meck. County (not counting the  fish sandwiches at West Charlotte).

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2 hours ago, BlueDevilsBiggestFan said:

But Those are on Saturday correct 

To my knowledge u can’t unless it on a Saturday

The day has nothing to do with it.

Catholic can play any team in CMS as Catholic is a member of the NCHSAA.  They played South Meck and Ardrey Kell the last several years non conference and had played other CMS teams in the past non conference.

CMS does not allow their schools to play schools that are not a member of the state association unless it is in a tournament or some type of event with a promoter.  I do think if the schools requested it they would be allowed to play.  This rule has remained from years ago as the Big Four (Christian, Country Day, Latin, and Providence) provide financial aid to athletes and at one time allowed reclassification of the student's class (a rising junior could repeat his sophomore year as an example).  The Big Four did away with reclassifing but still provide "scholarships" which they claim is a way to assist with diversity within the student body.  Personally, I think CMS should allow them to schedule non conference with any school they wish.

 

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4 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

I don't care what you say, I ain't gonna eat em. I know they are good, even I wouldn't question that. Reguardless, I still don't think they should be playing in the NCHSAA. As usual, nobody gives a rats butt about what I think, but I am entitled to my opinion.  

It is fun getting Mr. Catholic stirred up from time to time though. There must be a little truth in what I'm saying or Mr. Catholic wouldn't get so bent out of shape about it.

No I got bent out of shape because you came on here claiming that just because we have two out of state games that we dont belong. Then assumed how much our coaches make and I had to prove you wrong again and put you in your place. 

I walk the halls at Catholic almost everyday I think I know what really goes on, but yeah you’re right. You, a guy who obviously hasn’t stepped on Catholic’s campus knows our secrets. 

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The rules for CMS not playing private schools began with desegregation. Some of the private schools were created as busing began and CMS officials decided not to play private schools especially new ones that were taking students.

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There appeared to be a thawing about twenty years ago.  Then Garinger made it to the state basketball title game led by a freshman PG.  He ten ended up at P Day the next year...as a reclassified freshman.

The Big Four announced several years ago they would no longer reclassify.  Many felt this was a first step in trying to schedule CMS teams.  Many think it is better for CMS not to give them that “in” by scheduling the privates.

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Interesting that the assumption is always made that private schools have more and their employees are paid more. Sometimes this is the case. Sometimes it is not. At MOST private schools, the teachers and coaches are actually paid less than public school counterparts in that state. Facilities are paid for (and maintained) with ZERO public funds. Private donations and fundraising campaigns are the avenues for improvements and additions to existing facilities.

Ok, so you say “it’s all those wealthy families that have money anyway” that contribute. Sometimes this is true... especially at the really high dollar private’s but there are families that save & sacrifice a lot to send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. All the while paying for public schools as well thru taxes as we all do. No, I’m not saying they shouldn’t either. Fundraising campaigns also go on for public schools thru booster clubs & other special projects. I’d argue there is often a greater disparity in facilities between older & newer public schools.

If you want to complain about lack of district boundaries, fair enough. With the way families transfer their kids within & between school systems nowadays though, are there really any boundaries? The truth is that nobody cares when a school like Catholic goes 4-7 or 6-6. They really don’t even care if they win 30 consecutive volleyball, tennis or cross country state titles. It’s when they win a State Championship in football or boys basketball that people get upset. I’ve seen it here in NC and with Bishop England in SC. 

I’ve lived a lot of places. I attended both private and public schools as have my kids. I graduated from a public school as have my kids. 

In the end, it’s a game. It’s played by kids and too many adults are getting upset by the results. Support your kids, your school and your community... both public and private.

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On 1/27/2019 at 5:50 PM, ConnerP said:

Interesting that the assumption is always made that private schools have more and their employees are paid more. Sometimes this is the case. Sometimes it is not. At MOST private schools, the teachers and coaches are actually paid less than public school counterparts in that state. Facilities are paid for (and maintained) with ZERO public funds. Private donations and fundraising campaigns are the avenues for improvements and additions to existing facilities.

Ok, so you say “it’s all those wealthy families that have money anyway” that contribute. Sometimes this is true... especially at the really high dollar private’s but there are families that save & sacrifice a lot to send their kids to private schools for a variety of reasons. All the while paying for public schools as well thru taxes as we all do. No, I’m not saying they shouldn’t either. Fundraising campaigns also go on for public schools thru booster clubs & other special projects. I’d argue there is often a greater disparity in facilities between older & newer public schools.

If you want to complain about lack of district boundaries, fair enough. With the way families transfer their kids within & between school systems nowadays though, are there really any boundaries? The truth is that nobody cares when a school like Catholic goes 4-7 or 6-6. They really don’t even care if they win 30 consecutive volleyball, tennis or cross country state titles. It’s when they win a State Championship in football or boys basketball that people get upset. I’ve seen it here in NC and with Bishop England in SC. 

I’ve lived a lot of places. I attended both private and public schools as have my kids. I graduated from a public school as have my kids. 

In the end, it’s a game. It’s played by kids and too many adults are getting upset by the results. Support your kids, your school and your community... both public and private.

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So let me get this straight. Private schools are poorer than public schools even with a parking deck that I have yet to sight from public schools. I don't care about the ongoing argument that has transpired on here about whether Charlotte Catholic should or should not play with public schools. However, I find it hard to believe that the kids at Catholic are middle class, but the teachers are poor & suffer from low income.

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1 hour ago, HPCBison08 said:

So let me get this straight. Private schools are poorer than public schools even with a parking deck that I have yet to sight from public schools. I don't care about the ongoing argument that has transpired on here about whether Charlotte Catholic should or should not play with public schools. However, I find it hard to believe that the kids at Catholic are middle class, but the teachers are poor & suffer from low income.

Come over buddy. Sit one of our teachers down and ask them. That parking deck was donated by the Keffer’s who have been an institution at Catholic for decades. That is not the norm and it was done out of necessity to keep kids from parking on the side streets. Many kids at Catholic are middle/upper middle class. I was, my parents sacrificed to send me there. Don’t bring up something you don’t know anything about. 

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Catholic student body family financial situation is not like Country Day, Latin, and Providence Day and doubtful it is in line with Christian.

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It's quite evident that some posters no nothing about Catholic schools and education.  If I'm not mistaken, the4 Jesuit order are traditionally teachers within the Catholic faith and education falls under their guidance.  Btango is right in his assessment of the "private" schools in the Charlotte area.  Catholic will fall at the bottom of the socio-economic spectrum.  Parents who start the kids in Catholic schools tend to keep them there for two simple reasons:  1.  The kids receive religious and moral training.  2.  The academic education is second to none.  The public schools only wish they were as successful.  I will say this for the students of Charlotte Catholic and some other private schools on Charlotte.  They are extremely well mannered.  Punkish behavior is not a part of their culture.  The publics  could take note of this.

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2 hours ago, Rick Harrington said:

It's quite evident that some posters no nothing about Catholic schools and education.  If I'm not mistaken, the4 Jesuit order are traditionally teachers within the Catholic faith and education falls under their guidance.  Btango is right in his assessment of the "private" schools in the Charlotte area.  Catholic will fall at the bottom of the socio-economic spectrum.  Parents who start the kids in Catholic schools tend to keep them there for two simple reasons:  1.  The kids receive religious and moral training.  2.  The academic education is second to none.  The public schools only wish they were as successful.  I will say this for the students of Charlotte Catholic and some other private schools on Charlotte.  They are extremely well mannered.  Punkish behavior is not a part of their culture.  The publics  could take note of this.

I would not go that far. I have a ton of respect for the Catholic program and the school in general. When I was working in SOuth Charlotte I was always looking for CC kids to employ. Many came from middle to upper class families and the kids were taught that they needed to work if they wanted to buy things. Thats said, they arent angels and I have seen antics from the athletes at several CC sporting events. Not off the charts bad but typical teenage stuff. 

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2 hours ago, Wrigley said:

I would not go that far. I have a ton of respect for the Catholic program and the school in general. When I was working in SOuth Charlotte I was always looking for CC kids to employ. Many came from middle to upper class families and the kids were taught that they needed to work if they wanted to buy things. Thats said, they arent angels and I have seen antics from the athletes at several CC sporting events. Not off the charts bad but typical teenage stuff. 

"Typical teenage stuff"  happens everywhere and as a rule it is just that.  Antics like Lake Norman pulled against Mallard Creek's volleyball team would not be tolerated at Charlotte Catholic.

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How often are "scholarships" awarded or tuitions paid by someone internal for stellar athletes? Honest question...... It happens; just curious how often.

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38 minutes ago, SPRedRaider said:

How often are "scholarships" awarded or tuitions paid by someone internal for stellar athletes? Honest question...... It happens; just curious how often.

“It happens.”  Could you provide some additional info to support that statement.  

Almost all of the players come from Parochial middle schools.  This is why I do not really question their program.  People act like they are a team loaded with four and five star players.

 

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On 2/3/2019 at 7:56 AM, Catholic said:

Come over buddy. Sit one of our teachers down and ask them. That parking deck was donated by the Keffer’s who have been an institution at Catholic for decades. That is not the norm and it was done out of necessity to keep kids from parking on the side streets. Many kids at Catholic are middle/upper middle class. I was, my parents sacrificed to send me there. Don’t bring up something you don’t know anything about. 

No complaints about West Montgomery's INDOOR practice facility? Pick on CC but refuse to schedule them. Put up......simple as that

 

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Careful Red Raider, they will cut you down quicker than a evergreen in Canada. Don't you say nothing bout them Cougers. Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it.

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3 hours ago, SPRaiders78 said:

Careful Red Raider, they will cut you down quicker than a evergreen in Canada. Don't you say nothing bout them Cougers. Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it.

I just ask that if a person is going to make accusations they need to back it up with supporting information and details.  

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15 hours ago, btango said:

“It happens.”  Could you provide some additional info to support that statement.  

Almost all of the players come from Parochial middle schools.  This is why I do not really question their program.  People act like they are a team loaded with four and five star players.

 

I'm not going to provide names of anyone on here because I value that friendship more than anyone's opinion here. The source is an ex-Catholic players parent. Their son played there during the Hood days. The suggestion was that the aforementioned did not pay tuition to attend CC. 

I don't question the program. I think they are only doing what they are being allowed to do. Until someone says its not OK.... so be it. 

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Did your friend explain the MACS financial aid package that was available for all Diocese students that entered Catholic through 2011-2012 schools year?  Did he explain that it is no longer available to any student that participates in athletics entering the school since that time?  

Want to make sure it is understood I did not attend Catholic, have never worked there, am not affiliated with the school, teams, or religion.  They were my opponent years ago.

 

 

 

 

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