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  1. Anyone else find it funny that Charlotte Catholic has two losses when playing similar competition in other private schools? A private school with no-boundaries should not be allowed to play with public schools. Private Schools playing in public school leagues have almost killed prep football in Pennsylvania. Lots of studies have shown that private schools routinely out perform public schools in just about every measurable sport except boys basketball and even then its close. Private schools have distinct advantages in no boundaries, funding of athletics/school, and being able to be selective in the athletes it accepts to the team. Most private Parochial schools have a built in feeder middle school that only feeds on private highschool and they can weed out low academic performers. Bottomline these type of parochial private schools should not be playing in public school playoffs.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    Btango respect your opinion greatly. You mention Catholic, transportation, and $12k per yer as a detriment. Many would argue that's a constraint for success. Most of the great public CMS teams had an academic/social/athletic constraint for success. Remember when WC was 35% white vs. 98% black? You would think at 98% they would get more athletes and better students, but the opposite happened and they got worse athletes, and worse academically. If there were 4-5 other area Catholic schools pulling the same players you would have a great point. But there is only one and there is a selection process that ensures only the best and brightest get in. What made those Indy, and Butler teams great was a constraint of talent and great academics that flowed to 2 schools that had excellent coaching. Same thing with Mallard Creek, Butler, and now Myers Park. You will get your better athletes at football schools that perform well academically. Add in a religious aspect and you get an added bonus. This is what VCC was banking on when they first got started, but they underestimated the fact that many parents just dont buy into VCC/Gool. Look at Knotts at Dutch Fork. Mallard Creek has the perfect mix of athletics/academics and affluent or better yet a reduced amount of low income students that it can succeed. Add in excellent coaching and you have a juggernaut. This is what Knotts was referring too when he mentioned changing a few zip codes destroyed WC. The day and age of the hard luck financial story athlete is gone. To be successful in sports now you must have personal trainers, camps, equipment, better coaches, better travel teams, meaning affluence helps a great deal in developing athletes. The parents that are willing to spend more and do more have children that are better at sports. Its just a new reality. Thats why a constraint in acceptance is a benefit. Its the Gideon effect. A strong unified 300 is more ready for battle than 100k with differing minds. Public schools have to accept the weaker ones whereas privates can eliminate them. Thats a huge advantage.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    Put Catholic staff at AK and they may make the playoffs. Catholic has the admissions and culture buy in that public schools don't have. If a 25 mile radius is not an advantage, selection admissions, and direct feeder middle schools with an affluent background is not an advantage not sure what you define as an advantage. Add competent coaches and you have a juggernaut. They wouldnt have to play up a class and put in self imposed restrictions if it wasn;t an advantage or folks not playing by same rules. Catholic is a great school and a great program. They should play against other privates. Also to even mention Mallard Creek as a school that beat Catholic is disingenuous. Mallard routinely gets the best athletes and transfers to their school. They have excellent coaching and system. To even have to jump to the Mallard Creek defense for Catholic's built in advantages just shows you how big of an advantage it is. Folks keep saying NASA, but as mentioned before Catholics take sports very seriously especially on the prep level. Lets not kid ourselves. They have great athletes at Catholic, Christian, Country Day, and Cardinal Gibbins, St. Patrick, St. Thomas Aquinas. Those are superior athletes. Dont be biased. They can play.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    A 25 mile radius is a distinct advantage. Being able to get affluent players through the admissions/selection process is big too. To act like it isn;t is being disingenuous. Folks complained about Bishop MuGiness, and Cardinal Gibbons also. Then they have dedicated middle schools that flow players to Catholic, so saying they look like NASA is being biased beyond belief. If every football player from Ridge Road, James Martin, and Ransom automatically flowed to Vance or MC with no possibility of other schools they would become unbeatable within a few years. Catholic doesn;t want to play pure privates because they cant compete and built a legacy beating up on weak public schools. Most of their losses are to other private schools who match up with them. You wouldn;t let Christian play public's and their guys look like NASA guys too.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    Those conferences have a right and shouldn't have to play private schools. They are in essence private schools. meaning not Public and playing under the same rules as other public schools. The same issues that occur in PA, NY, MD, and other areas of the US apply to Catholic now. catholic fans dont want to acknowledge an unfair playing field but there is no other way to state it. I applaud teams and conferences that refuse to play Gibbons, or Catholic. When the Rowan County schools said something it was an uproar but they had the confidence to say something. By vote it was very close to them being removed so I'm not the only one that feels they should play their playoffs amoing themselves instead of using public schools as schedule fillers and fodder to build their programs. To even mention a 25 mile radius is funny, when most public schools have a 3-5 mile radius that they share with other public schools, and private schools agreed to this to kjeep from getting booted. Lets be serious. 25 mile radius from a school. Thats an entire county and more.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    Catholic I never used the word recruiting. Catholic doesn;t recruit at all. Never alleged they did. I stated they have distinct advantages as do all Parochial schools playing vs. plblics in that that they dont have boundaries, they have unfair funding advantages over public schools, and they have a controlled admissions process that allwoes them to be selective in the student they get. Any child of any background can go to any public school, not so at private schools. Its a distinct advantage in sports. Look at the research. Privates vs. public schools is heavily skewed towards privates because they dont get a general acceptance child and are more affluent than public schools. Not about whose team beat what, but playing on a a level field for all involved.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    Got it Catholic no defense to facts just rolls eyes.
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    Charlotte Catholic

    They are very similar to Catholic @Catholic and @ Wrigley. Sure there are differences but they are more similar to Catholic than Catholic is similar to the public schools it competes against. Its not even debatable. When Catholic plays similar schools they lose. They are taking advantage of being a true private school playing in a public school league. The advantages Catholic or any parochial school has are too numerous to even list. Of course a fan of Catholic would love the status quo and not do research on how private schools playing in public leagues is destroying the integrity of the prep experience. GDG, you are helping make my point. Public schools have a different dynamic of student and student athlete they have to deal with that a private school just doesn't have to factor in. When 92% of your student body goes to college after private school vs. 20-40% at most public highschools I'd say thats a distinct advantage. Haveing an admissions selection process is a distinct advantage,
  9. Work7, and Wrigley I agree that Kelly performed well before that game and that it was a team loss. Just noting that there is more fluff that goes along with these one year rentals than actual play on the field. To me, and IMHO a QB that has been in the system and grew up among teammates fares better in a win or lose one big game situation. Regular season and the rest likely doesn;t matter with the talent at a school like MC. But when the money is on the table. Should be a great game. Just hoping the weather holds up.
  10. Wrigley and Work agree that Washington was not a rental. My point being that to me he would have done better than the rental Kelly. it was mentioned that Vance, Hough, MP had rentals and they did somewhat. They had a multi year starter at QB even though they did transfer in. Its a difference to me in leadership ability and growing with guys when you are a senior one year rental. It undermines the program. Have had MC parents even mention to me that Washington would have done just as well or better than Kelly in 2018. So its an issue. When I look back to Knotts going all the way back to Harding to Dutch Fork I can only think of 1, one year rental and that was Tim Funderburk at WC. The rest of his qbs were at the school and learned the system as an underclassman or started as a soph or Jr. Senior leadership from the QB is big. The QB is the leader. If you cant see the advantage of having a 4 year guy vs. a one year guy in a game like this not sure what to say. As for the game. Agree fully work7 that MC is the best coached, trained, and hardest working HS in the state of NC. Problem is Dutch Fork is in SC. Now I'm all excited thinking about this game. Last year had me heated so I'm trying not to over hype myself for this year. Just think Knotts has had time to prepare and lives for games like this. Ill be cheering for MC no doubt. Just MHO. Also dont see MC losing any game the rest of the way and that it will get brutal for some schools on their sked.
  11. Work7 you hit the nail on the head. Tommy Knotts. I'd pick his team in 90% of matchups blindy just knowing he is the coach. Factor in Homefield advantage and Mallard creek learning a new offense I'd take DF all day. One factor I look at is the celebrity QB. How many teams are better the next year bringing in a QB vs, a homegrown QG. MC hasn;t been the same since they went the rental QB route IMHO. 2016 Chauncey, 2017 Washington, 2018 Kelly. nOw 2019 Noller. Think Washington beats Hough if given the chance last year. Dutch Fork on the other hand has a home grown QB that has been withthe program a while in Olenchuk. Thats a big advantage in games like these. While my heart will be cheering for MC, think DF wins big and ugly vs,. MC. DF 35, MC 14. Hope I'm wrong though.
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    Week 1: Dudley at West Forsyth

    D Boyz by 7
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    Week 1: Butler vs. Hough (Thursday)

    Butler in the mild upset by 7
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    Hoover Elite 7 on 7

    congrats Creek!
  15. This will be a GREAT game. Just dont see Dutch Fork losing. There are only two teams in the Carolinas I'd have above Mallard Creek and they are Dutch Fork, and Wake Forest. Think they play then both this year. MC is loaded. If game was at Memorial it would be a pick em. At Dutch Fork. Gimme Dutch by 14
  16. Dudley 2008 was a monster too. Can't forget the D boys.
  17. Down year Crest. TBH I think the RC team that took Indy to the wire was really good, and the one that slipped up and won the title in 08 was really good at the end of the year. Wouldn;t bet against that team. But with the 3 losses they can't be considered all time great. But once they got that 2 Back option down pack, no one in the state was touching them. It was a thing of beauty. Its like those old time FSU teams. 93 may be best ever but had a loss, 99 was really good and undefeated, but many of the prior years teams could be considered better.
  18. Crest IMHO Richmond 98 wasn't as good as Richmond 97. ALso Ricmond 97 practically had a ref cheat vs. WC in a late playoff game. Bunch of non-calls that really took the integrity out of that win. Was glad to See Indy go down there and smoke them to make a point about playing at RC. IN 98 the entire state was really down. WC 98 wasn't that good at all in comparison with other previous 90 teams. Crest was down, Byrd was down too. Northern Durham was down too. No other real challengers til AC reynolds popped on the scene.
  19. MDevil06, nothing wrong with that! support ya team. Thats a great fan there.
  20. To be on an all time list there are two minimum requirements to me. A state title or a one loss season. Mooresville 11 has neither of those. Good team, but many highschools have good teams. They didn;t even win their conference IIRC.
  21. NO offense but why is Mooresville 2011 even being mentioned in this conversation? Didn;t they get run in multiple games in the regular season? EVen losing to Porter Ridge? I'd say Scotland 2011 needs more mention and Mooresville removed from convo just for that year alone.
  22. ND 1993 is tops on my list. Some of the Indy teams and MC teams were good no doubt. Richmond 98 was really good too. These Wake Forest teams are undervalued in debates like this. Really think they are becoming or currently are a dynasty with their style of play.
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    Bowles leaving Providence

    Steelers exactly. Its really become selfish on both sides with everyone looking for the best opportunity for themselves. The overall team/community concept has been eroded. This just doesn't apply to sports, but work, life, church, and personal relationships. As we become more and more individualistic as a society it will reflect in sports more and more. But the key difference is most sports are built for team effort and working together. Really dont want to see the state of HS football in 20 years or so. will be interesting. Another thing that gets lost is coaching ethics at the youth level. Growing up coaches were more of value teachers vs. win/loss types. Now take my sons AAU team for example. We have had a group of 7-9 guys play the entire season and work hard. Pay fees, practice, trainers etc etc etc. Now that is time for nationals we have other players just show up for the nationals at the request of the coach. Hired guns so to speak. So the kids that have worked all year, practiced and gave their all are out and on the bench for the new guys. How can that coach teach work hard, do your best and you will be rewarded to the players? Or is he teaching the best man plays regardless of what you have done previously? Just think with the proliferation of travel teams, 7v7, AAU, win at all cost, and devaluation of practice we have lost the fundamental aspect of coaching which is to build the player and build their character. The definition of coach used to mean teacher. So when these same youth ball players get older and they perceive a slight or injustice they are ready to leave just based on experiences they had at the youth level. This transfer/coach issue starts very early in most player's lives even before middle school.
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    Bowles leaving Providence

    Reread my post. Want to change slave to an authoritative relationship. Its the same with good and bad pastors leading flocks, CEOs over companies. etc etc. The one at the top never gets the same amount of criticism the ones at the bottom do. A bad pastor can cheat on his wife, beat his kids, but because he is pastor he is given more forgiveness. If the deacon or usher do the same thing they are ostracized and talked about. The issue is the foundation of the system is overturned when too many players/workers/members revolt so good leadership is key.
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    Bowles leaving Providence

    Wrigley, TBH its a slave mentality. Not trying to invoke race at all. But its a mentality of the coach knows best and that the coach has these players as their possessions. If the possessions get out of line the coach can let them go, but if a player leaves on his on the player is selfish. Coach leaves its for a better opportunity. The coach has an expanded life in the business whereas a player only gets 4 years. So parents and players must do whats best for them. The problem comes in when there are outside influences on players to leave certain schools and go to others. Also a player can be labeled as being bad or a malcontent, but never a coach. From personal experience if you get stuck in a bad situation with a coach its very hard to "work" your way out or get on the coaches good side. The player is stuck. Then you have some great coaches that motivate all their players and players will run through walls for them so players flock to them. You have services that "rank" players routinely or judge them. If the same standard was applied to coaches what grades would some of these coaches get? My point is just the word coach gets a lot of horrible coaches more leeway and authority over the players just by definition no matter the level or experience of the coach. Bottom line is this. Its a selfish business on both sides, but coaches fair much better long term. It hurts a coach when players leave because its an indictment on them in many ways that they dont want to accept.