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No varsity football at East Chapel Hill this fall ...


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#1 RD28327

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:30 PM

Soon to drop to 3A, no varsity football at East Chapel Hill ...

 

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:21 AM

That's not too surprising for that school. But still sad to see the lack of interest at a 3A school. Tough situation for the coach to work through.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:45 AM

It's a country club sport school mostly. I know they are a power in women's lacrosse, and I think they do fairly well in men's as well. I guess football just isn't important. 


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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:57 AM

Not a big football area at all. Between the three schools, whoever get the most kids from the feeder middle schools will have a decent season. Carrboro and Chapel Hill seems to do well with rotating the middle school kids who are interested in football. The kids who are true football players in the district rarely chose East as the school they want to attend. East had Butch Davis as an assistant coach (from the stands), and they had the best record in school history (5-6). Very tough place to have a consistent football program. They do lead the state in AP scores. They pack both gyms and the wrestling room for AP testing day.



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:19 PM

Not a big football area at all. Between the three schools, whoever get the most kids from the feeder middle schools will have a decent season. Carrboro and Chapel Hill seems to do well with rotating the middle school kids who are interested in football. The kids who are true football players in the district rarely chose East as the school they want to attend. East had Butch Davis as an assistant coach (from the stands), and they had the best record in school history (5-6). Very tough place to have a contestant football program. They do lead the state in AP scores. They pack both gyms and the wrestling room for AP testing day.




Unfortunate for the football program, but I'd rather win in the classroom than on the field. It's easier, though not easy, to turn around an athletic program versus a school academic culture.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 12:29 PM

Unfortunate for the football program, but I'd rather win in the classroom than on the field. It's easier, though not easy, to turn around an athletic program versus a school academic culture.

It isn't about winning in the classroom, you can do both. They just don't care about football they put their focus in other sports. 


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:02 PM

I still cannot believe that Carrboro made the state finals in football.  I told a guy that interviewed at the school for the HC job in baseball.  He said, "who the hell coached them, Nick Saban."  Give big props to current UNC staff member Jason Tudryn on that coaching performance.

 

East, CH, and Carrboro do not put a premium on sports.  A coach is often going to have a hard time getting a teaching position inside the school.  Uphill battle but wishing them the best.



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 05:14 PM

It isn't about winning in the classroom, you can do both. They just don't care about football they put their focus in other sports.



In some environments, it's almost impossible to do both. A lot of things have to go right for that to be the case.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:23 PM

In some environments, it's almost impossible to do both. A lot of things have to go right for that to be the case.

Seems like an issue of talent and kids interested at ECH. You can put emphasis on grades while still trying to generate interest and build up a football program 


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 07:09 PM

Seems like an issue of talent and kids interested at ECH. You can put emphasis on grades while still trying to generate interest and build up a football program



Seems to be more than that. Especially when kids have the ability to go to another school with better talent. Public school is different. More dynamics to deal with. You can be a great school, lines are redrawn, and be mediocre within one calendar year.

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 07:08 AM

Seems to be more than that. Especially when kids have the ability to go to another school with better talent. Public school is different. More dynamics to deal with. You can be a great school, lines are redrawn, and be mediocre within one calendar year.

Well is there open enrollment there? With the kids being able to go to another school comment it gives off that vibe, but I have no idea. Ahhh redrawing lines always a fun process. 


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

Academics and football can both be successful but it's a difficult task. Schools with high performers are smart enough to know their best opportunity is to put all their time into class work and get an academic scholarship of some sort rather than spend 15 hours a week at a pracrice. All those kids who were role players on a football field know they are not getting a football ride.

Are there exceptions? Of course. But looking at schools with high rankings its much more evident football takes a backseat. If a kid spends most of his free time on sports skills it's less likely he performs at the top of his class. It's not a couple of fast kids that make a great program. Those are the headliners we all talk about. It's the unselfish kids who do all the blocking and tackling with a dedication to the team concept that make a program work. I have seen this first hand here as the school went from a poor performer to the #14 public school the football and basketball programs took a dive.

This is where the right coach at a great academic school is important. His demands on the time in practice and the weight room should actually be less. Smart kids don't need to run a play over and over. Heck they are in AP courses. The X and O stuff is not difficult. You put a coach in a program with good academics and demand they be in weight training first period every year and they will bolt from the sport.




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