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#1 Jim West

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:16 AM

I'm going to do a ranking of the James Bond movies.  As of now, 25 James Bond movies have been produced (23 EON films along with Never Say Never Again and the 1967 spoof "Casino Royale").  I've seen 23 of the James Bond films this summer (I haven't seen the last two James Bond films).

 

Right now, this is my rank of James Bond films:

 

  1. Goldfinger  (Connery)  A+
  2. From Russia with Love (Connery) A+
  3. Dr. No (Connery) A+
  4. For Your Eyes Only (Moore) A
  5. Goldeneye (Brosnan) A
  6. Casino Royale--2006 film (Craig) A
  7. You Only Live Twice (Connery) A-
  8. The Spy Who Loved Me (Moore) A-
  9. Thunderball (Connery) B+
  10. Live and Let Die (Moore) B
  11. The Living Daylights (Daulton) B
  12. Moonraker (Moore) B
  13. The World is not Enough (Brosnan) B-
  14. Diamonds are Forever (Connery) B-
  15. A View to a Kill (Moore) C+
  16. Never Say Never Again (Connery) C+
  17. Licence to Kill (Dalton) C+
  18. Tomorrow Never Dies (Brosnan) C+
  19. Octopussy (Moore) C
  20. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Lazenby) C
  21. Die Another Day (Brosnan) C-
  22. The Man with the Golden Gun (Moore) D
  23. Casino Royale--1967 film (Niven) F

 

I won't rank the actors that played James Bond because each actor did a great job portraying James Bond.  Here are my thoughts of each actor:

 

Sean Connery.  He was suave, somewhat charismatic, somewhat a man's man.  Connery's Bond had a lot of self-confidence.  He played a very intelligent James Bond that people liked, but also a Bond that tended to play his feelings closer to his vest.

 

David Niven.  Niven's Bond was aloof, not that funny, and very clumsy.  I have trouble taking his Bond as a true James Bond since this movie was a parody of the James Bond films that failed beyond its wildest dreams.  Niven is a good actor, but he was given absolutely nothing to work with.

 

George Lazenby.  Lazenby didn't look like a James Bond to me, but he was a very physical actor that made up for his appearance.  He probably went a little overboard in his disguises, but that was probably more of a product of the late 1960's.  Lazenby was the only Bond that ever got married.  

 

Roger Moore.  Moore played up the playboy image of Bond.  Moore brought a lot of humor to James Bond, and while most of the time the humor worked, sometimes he made the character a bit of a parody (Moonraker, for example).  It was hard not to like Moore as James Bond...he had the charisma.  The problem with Moore tends to be he played the Bond role into his 50's.

 

Timothy Dalton.  He was somewhat the polar opposite of Roger Moore.  He played a more dark, but more sensitive James Bond.  He also didn't look like what I thought James Bond would be.  Dalton's acting skills are great, and I think the Bond character evolved under his watch.

 

Pierce Brosnan.  I thought Brosnan physically looked like my vision of James Bond better than any other actor.  Brosnan's Bond was more likable than Dalton and also nicer.  A little soft like Moore, fairly charismatic, and maybe a little more diverse in his role as Bond.  

 

Daniel Craig.  Craig is physical like Lazenby and Connery, and very dark like Dalton.  Craig is a great actor and his Bond appears to have more anger issues than any other Bond.  Craig's Bond was a true assassin and was more like Ian Fleming's vision of Bond than any other actor.  

 

Anyway, feel free to give me your two cents on this idea and how you would rank the films.  One person's C film might be another person's A film.  Most of the critics loved On Her Majesty's Secret Service, but I thought the film dragged on in areas where it wasn't that much fun to view.



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:22 AM

Jim, you HAVE to watch Quatum of Solace and Skyfall!! I feel that Daniel Craig is the 2nd best James Bond, behind Sean Connery, of course!

#3 Chris Hughes

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:24 AM

I love it, I am a true 007 aficionado. I personally love the Craig moves the best. 



#4 Jim West

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:34 AM

I'll watch Quantum of Solace and Skyfall sometime in the next few weeks.  Last night I saw Casino Royale and I loved the movie.  Great acting and a great plot.  Craig's Bond is amazing.  



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 09:41 AM

I'll watch Quantum of Solace and Skyfall sometime in the next few weeks.  Last night I saw Casino Royale and I loved the movie.  Great acting and a great plot.  Craig's Bond is amazing.  

 

I told you that you would love Casino Royale, it's probably my overall favorite.  Quantum is good but Skyfall is extremely good.  I'm anxiously awaiting Craig's fourth Bond movie. 

 

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#6 Harry Nostrant

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 10:06 AM

Personally Daniel Craig and Pierce Brosnan are my favorites. Craig to me is more of what Bond truly was in the books...-a stone cold killer and assassin essentially.

#7 Chris Hughes

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 10:18 AM

Ranking my favorite Bonds....

 

1. Daniel Craig

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2. Roger Moore

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3. Sean Connery

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4. Pierce Brosnan 

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5. Timothy Dalton

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6. George Lazenby

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#8 Jim West

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 10:41 AM

It's very hard to rank the James Bond actors because they all bring different qualities to James Bond and because not all James Bond movies have the same quality.  I think the three earliest films (Dr. No, From Russia with Love, and Goldfinger) had the best plots, and Connery reaped the rewards.  Some of Moore's movies (The Man with the Golden Gun, Octopussy) didn't have the same magic to me.  Moonraker could have been a great movie, but the screenplay was downright awful.  If wasn't for Jaws and Roger Moore, this movie would be at the bottom of the barrel.  

 

In my own mind, Nivens shouldn't be considered a true James Bond since the 1967 Casino Royale was merely a spoof.  Lazenby was not an actor at the time (he was merely a one-time replacement for Connery), so he would be ranked #6.

 

Connery is my favorite Bond because he could be mean, suave, cunning, manipulative, and compassionate.  Moore could go from one extreme to the other by being downright silly and very serious within seconds.  The fans liked Moore's Bond more than anyone, but his Bond wasn't nearly as deep as Connery's Bond.  Moore was more of a humorist that I appreciate, and he probably had Bond take himself less seriously than the others.  Dalton was very serious, maybe a tad too serious, but after 7 Moore films, he was a bit of fresh air.  Brosnan was kind of a hybrid between Connery's suaveness, Moore's gentleman persona, and Dalton's seriousness.  Daniel Craig is a totally different animal, type A++ personality more in the mold of Ian Fleming's vision.



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Posted 08 October 2014 - 08:19 PM

I have a soft spot for "A View to a Kill." I loved Christopher Walken as a bad guy and the Duran Duran theme song.

 

Daniel Craig, Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby is how I rank them.

 

It's an incredible, enduring franchise that has transcended time and culture. The next Bond likely could be Idris Elba, which would be a very interesting choice.

 

Oh, and if you haven't seen it yet … "Gone Girl" will blow your mind. And outstanding film. Best I've seen in five or so years maybe, if I sat down and thought about it long enough. It will blow your mind.



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 11:45 AM

I've watched Octopussy and The World is Not Enough today.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:03 PM

I have a soft spot for "A View to a Kill." I loved Christopher Walken as a bad guy and the Duran Duran theme song.

 

Daniel Craig, Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby is how I rank them.

 

It's an incredible, enduring franchise that has transcended time and culture. The next Bond likely could be Idris Elba, which would be a very interesting choice.

 

Oh, and if you haven't seen it yet … "Gone Girl" will blow your mind. And outstanding film. Best I've seen in five or so years maybe, if I sat down and thought about it long enough. It will blow your mind.

I watched it recently, too. I'd read the book so I already knew the twist, but it still had me on the edge of my seat.  Pretty amazing moviemaking to be able to do that.



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Posted 22 February 2015 - 09:16 AM

A 007 fan here, I will give Connery the nod as my favorite, Bronson and Moore a close second. Craig does a good job but. It wasn't until Skyfall that he gained credibility in my book.Skyfall being the best of the Craig films. Dalton and Lazenby are in the lower tier of Bond Actors IMO.

Favorite film, well that's tough to call, being a fan of more than 30 years now I'll go with Dr. No and Ursula.
Not in order but very close are; spy who loved me, thunderball,octopussy,all of Bronson movies, diamonds are forever, gold finger.

Great series and I still enjoy watching each one of them.

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 11:12 AM

Fans of Bond films should check out the new movie "Kingsman: the Secret Service".  Not exactly the same, but featuring British secret agents against a villain out to bring about the end of the world as we know it (Samuel L. Jackson as a Billionaire worried about climate change).  I saw it earlier this week and really enjoyed it.


Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 10:47 PM

Little late but I just seen this. Been a Bond an for about 12 years so good timing ;)
 
 
Here's my top 5 of films:
 
 
1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Live and Let Die
3. Living Daylights
4. Goldeneye
5. You Only Live Twice
 
View to a kill barely missed for 5th place.
 
I love OHMSS because it was truely a coming of age moment for not just Bond but the series. Connery left and people were scared "How can Bond survive?" Well this film did a lot to prove that, however like Saturday Night Live when the orginal group left the replacement got all the blame and thrown down the shaft. Lazenby while not expeirenced and cocky as hell did a really good job with the material. He played Bond as a relistic guy with a tough job. Compared to Connery who played him as machismo 101 all the time (he literally wasn't human or connectable at times besides making people want to be him,) I got bored in Thunderball re-watching it because Connery was too cool for his own good. I like Bond as a human guy that is connectble. Lazenby did gret with that. He wasn't perfect nor suave 24/7 he made mistakes and got his share of licks in that fight he had. He struggled to stay celibate but loved Tracy. He rebeled against Q and did what was right, sort of like Bond's teenage esque rebelus period. Such a shame how it all ended for Lazenby I think he could have been a great Bond given time.
 
I love this film so much because aginst conventionl logic it shouldn't be as good but it was. Maybe I'm crazy but it has a great cult fanbase now. I love this movie so much I'm going to name my daughter Tracy after Mrs. Bond. Yes I said that...
 
Live and Let Die is an enigma. For one it's extremly silly and has aged terribly bad. The blaxpolotation has aged it a ton, plus the ugly colors, cheap sets, and limited scope made it feel odd. Diamonds are Forever was the same but this movie X it by 2. You have that ridiclous sheriff and sterotypes out the wazoo. But then again for what it was it ended up quite well. Moore had a great debut, Yaphat Kotto was perection as the baddie (no better choice for them to pick,) Jane Seymor was hot, and I love the score. Plus they topped it off with Geffory Holder (RIP btw,) as Baron Samedi. Yes the Voodoo god o death, why is he in this? Well they start him off as a side charcther then they added some LSD and went all out to make him the legit god as Bond "killed him" and he lives at the end. That is completely out o place in the series but dang it if it wasn't awesome. It tramautized me as a little kid watching it (yes this movie was one of the few that scared me as a kid, IDK why.) 
 
Other ones are meh, but I really loved Dalton. Such a shame he got the shaft.


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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:47 PM


but I really loved Dalton. Such a shame he got the shaft.

 

 

For me, other than Craig, he was the best Bond. The two films Dalton did are also much darker in tone than any of the other Bond films up to Craig.



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Posted 16 May 2015 - 11:38 PM

For me, other than Craig, he was the best Bond. The two films Dalton did are also much darker in tone than any of the other Bond films up to Craig.

 

I loved Dalton because he was a true actor's actor playing the lead in an escapist series, you'd often see actors cast because of their looks or popularity. But no he got it because he loved the character and wanted to return him to purity and his roots. Props from me. I think he's miles better than Craig for 3 reasons: 1. He did the darker stuff first, 2. His films weren't iffy they were flat out good, 3. He managed to do the humor scenes well. He made more humor in The Living Daylights than License to Kill but he did them well in both films.

 

TLD was awesome because it was a perfect mix of seriousness and comedy. It was originally written in the Moore template for Brosnan but due to NBC he couldn't do it so Dalton came in and they took the camp out. For the most part it made into a good film. The plot was for the most part was fun and the action was solid. It's biggest flaw was the villains. Krabbe wasn't bad as the main villain but Joe Don Baker wasn't right for the tone and was just out of place. Then you have the Afghan freedom fighters which now are known for being the predecessors for Al-Qaeda.   But Dalton did awesome and I loved the Bond girl D'Abo (such a shame her career de-evolved into doing crappy skinamax movies,) plus the score was 80's at it's best.

 

LTK was a total tone shift. Really when it comes down to it was the total series evolving and changing. Before then it was representative of the Cold War era (your villains were either Russians or Kajillionaires more often than not,) but with Sanchez it made for a great twist. Bond met a suave,machismo match and couldn't just go shoot him up. Instead they went the ironic/Japanese film route and have the villain do himself in by trusting Bond over his true allies. I loved how dark it was and Dalton/Robert Davi were awesome toghether. Davi actually played Bond in the auditions and he was quite well at it. It's biggest flaws are two-fold: 1. It was cheap and 2. The Bond Girls were horrendous. They filmed it in Mexico due to the 1989 version of Batman filming at the same time in it's studios but instead of giving it total authenticity (it was beautiful in the landscape shots,) the sets look cheap as hell. Then you have the crappy Bond girls in Carey Lowell and Talisa Soto. Good grief were they terrible. Carey was trying so hard to be a bad butt but when it comes down to it she wasn't much of anything besides a bland and lame annoyance. Plus that guy's cut on her was never attractive. Soto was never that pretty nor interesting nor a good actress,  She was just cast because Davi liked her. To be honest Sharon Stone would have been perfect for Lowell's role.  As for Soto's role anyone would have been better.

 

Dalton got the short end of the stick and had to wait 5 years before anything happened. He didn't deserve any of that because without him the series would have never had it's dignity restored. While Moore helped the series survive he put too much camp humor into it and people came to associate it with Bond and that should never be. I'm all for laughs but not camp laughs.



#17 The Victors

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 11:19 AM

I was raised on Roger Moore as James Bond.  But I really like Sean Connery, with his Scottish accent he can make a colonoscopy instruction manual sound interesting.  Daniel Graig has done a excellent job with the character. The Graig movies have been exciting, but the only thing I wish they would bring back to 007 movies is the spy gadgets. Daniel Graig doesn't seem to have any. Roger Moore probably had too many. I have read that they will be bringing  some of the gadget stuff back the next movie. Hopefull it won't be the cheesey gadgets.



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Posted 03 July 2015 - 03:57 PM

Fans of Bond films should check out the new movie "Kingsman: the Secret Service".  Not exactly the same, but featuring British secret agents against a villain out to bring about the end of the world as we know it (Samuel L. Jackson as a Billionaire worried about climate change).  I saw it earlier this week and really enjoyed it.

I liked it, too.  In fact, except for being R-rated, I think Kingsman is probably closer in tone to older Bond movies than the newer Bond movies are.



#19 btango

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 12:24 PM

Sean Connery.  A man among men.



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Posted 23 August 2015 - 04:52 PM

Sean Connery.

He set the standard and remains, clearly, the best one ever. Oh yes and the best Bond girl ever.....

Jane Seymour.

If any of you have an issue over this, you already know where you can go and you're wrong also.

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 05:01 PM

Jane Seymour and that lady from "For your eyes only" are my favorite Bond girls.

 

I'm with you on Connery.



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Posted 24 August 2015 - 03:45 PM

Oh yes and the best Bond girl ever.....

Jane Seymour.

If any of you have an issue over this, you already know where you can go and you're wrong also.

 

no disagreement there, Seymour was a true beauty



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 03:00 PM

Who's seen SPECTRE yet?  I have and loved it, but the reviews have been mixed by the critics.  I love how it wrapped up the other Craig movies into a grand finale.  I hope this isn't his last Bond flick. 



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 03:10 PM

Saw SPECTRE this past weekend. I thought is was a little slow BUT I was medicated because of a head cold so I'll blame it on the meds ! Still enjoyed it very much and would recommend it ! Craig is a badass !



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 06:25 PM

Best Bond theme song:

 

Here are my three finalists:

 

1.  Live and Let Die by Wings

 

2.  For Your Eyes Only by Sheena Easton

 

3.  A View to a Kill by Duran Duran






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